Diplomacy Games podcast: Episode 94 – Interview with Primacy app creators Matt & David

Venues: Guilty Rogue, Brisbane

Drinks of choice:

Kaner: Green Beacon Windjammer IPA from Brisbane

Amby: Green Beacon Windjammer IPA from Brisbane

The guys interview Matt and David, creators of the Primacy app which is playable on Apple and Android platforms. Plus 2032 Olympics talk, around the grounds and Amby’s Summer Classic experience.

Diplomacy Games at the Guilty Rogue, BrisbaneIntro and Diplomacy news

  • The guys are at the Guilty Rogue and discuss Brisbane officially hosting the 2032 Olympics. So its time to make Diplomacy an Olympic sport (0 mins 10 secs)
  • Amby asks if Diplomacy was an Olympic sport right now, who’d be representing their players and which countries would have a team (2 mins)
  • They talk specialist players for each country and what would be the scoring system for Diplomacy at the Olympics (5 mins 30 secs)
  • Amby talks about the need for an International Diplomacy Federation to advocate for the game to be in the Olympics (8 mins)

Interview with Matt and David from the Primacy App

  • Kaner & Amby start setting up the interview (10 mins 30 secs)
  • The interview starts. NOTE for listeners, Amby had some recording troubles so his audio isn’t as good as normal (11 mins 15 secs)
  • Amby asks David about the Primacy App and why they created it (12 mins)
  • They discuss how the App is available on Apple and Google Play stores (14 mins 45 secs)
  • Kaner asks about variants and Realpolitik (17 mins 45 secs)
  • Amby asks about copyright (19 mins 30 secs)
  • Amby asks about the forward program of work for the app (22 mins 45 secs)
  • They talk about what you get when you sign up and the premium version of the app (26 mins)
  • They discuss rule sets, number of players and feedback (29 mins)
  • Kaner asks about creating variants and the app (32 mins 15 secs)
  • Amby asks about whether Matt and David have created apps before (37 mins)
  • Amby asks what success would look like for the app (40 mins 15 secs)
  • Kaner asks Matt and David about how they got into Diplomacy (43 mins)
  • Amby asks about how to counter new players who NMR/civil disorder. They talk about mobile notifications (44 mins 30 secs)
  • During the interview Kaner downloads the app and signs up for a game and discusses his experience (50 mins 30 secs)
  • They talk about using their Discord server as a way for players to communicate in a forum style (52 mins 30 secs)
  • Amby talks about the game he’s currently in at Primacy (53 mins 45 secs)
  • They discuss visual design of maps (55 mins 30 secs)
  • The guys wrap up the interview before returning to give their thoughts on the discussion (57 mins 15 secs)
  • Kaner talks about some of his Realpolitik experience. He gives an update on his variant creation work with David E Cohen (59 mins 30 secs)
  • Amby discusses his observations on getting the word out about Primacy and suggestions for improvements (1 hr 3 mins 15 secs)

Around the grounds

  • Kaner starts talking about when he created a variant that simulated the Black Death during the time of the Mongolian Empire. He talks a little about this Mongolian Empire variant (1 hr 8 mins)
  • After some more drinks, they talk about Amby in the Cloak and Dagger series game that has started using the Mongolian Empire. But Amby first gives a quick recap of his three way draw in the just competed Cloak and Dagger game using the Who Controls America map: Dystopian Post-Truth Knockdown-Dragout (1 hr 12 mins)
  • The new game is called Screaming Jugular Bloodaxe Gusher. They give an overview of the variant. For more info about the variant have a listen to our chat about it back in Episode 63 (1 hr 14 mins)
  • They have a chat about having a Bourse game. Kaner gives a quick rundown of what a bourse game is if you’re not familiar with it (1 hr 22 mins 40 secs)
  • They talk about a couple of other games including Amby’s Undivided States game (1 hr 30 mins 30 secs)
  • David E. Cohen has got in touch with some more info about pronunciation of the word “Arkansas” (1 hr 33 mins 20 secs)
  • Amby gives an update of which states are still in the game (1 hr 36 mins)
  • They start talking virtual games, turning to the Summer Classic. Kaner said he was going to play but didn’t. Amby played in two rounds (although the first game he handed over midway to Jamal Blakkarly). Here’s Amby’s game 1 as England  and his second game as Germany (1 hr 38 mins)
  • The guys then wrap up the show (1 hr 45 mins 40 secs)


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Thanks as always to Dr Dan aka “The General” for his rockin’ intro tune.

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