Diplomacy Games podcast: Episode 33 shownotes – Mud throwing Dip style

RiverbarVenue: Fat Angel’s (briefly) and then Riverbar, Brisbane.

Drinks of choice:

Kaner – Feral Warthog IPA from West Australia and then Four Pines Kolsch from Sydney, Australia

Amby – Mojo shiraz from the Barossa Valley, Australia and then Malbec Tarrazas Reserva from Mendoza, Argentina.

After a while between drinking sessions Kaner and Amby hook up again in a loud American bar for Independence Day before heading down to the Riverbar to throw Dip mud in each others’ face.


  • Kaner and Amby celebrate Independence Day by starting off in an American themed sports bar called “Fat Angel”. Amby is drinking a Mojo shiraz from the Barossa Valley, Kaner is drinking the Feral Warthog IPA from West Australia. The guys felt when recording it was too loud and plan to move to another bar (although listening later, it wasn’t too bad) (0 mins 5 secs)
  • Now they’re at Riverbar. Kaner quickly throws in a heap of Australian colloquialisms before talking about his urinal experience (2 mins 30 secs)
  • The guys recognise its been a while since we last got together in a pub for an episode (4 mins 45 secs)

A long around the grounds

  • They talk about what they’ve learnt as a result of implementing some of Dr Recommended’s suggestion on which games to sign up to: gunboat games with longer phase periods. Amby acknowledges that he made some slip ups in his decision making on which NMR/CD games to join (5 mins 30 secs)
  • Kaner talks about his WW4 game as Japan that has just wrapped up in a draw before saying how drunk he is already (10 mins 15 secs)
  • The guys experience technical issues in the field being iPad-less (13 mins)
  • They introduce their drinks: Amby has a Malbec Tarrazas Reserva from Mendoza, Argentina Kaner is drinking a Four Pines Kolsch from Sydney in Australia (14 mins 20 secs)
  • Then it’s back to discussing the WW4 game. Amby asks about the strategy of throwing SCs to allies (14 mins 50 secs)
  • They talk words (19 mins)
  • Kaner discusses his desire to colour every territory on the map (21 mins 45 secs)
  • Amby talks about borders in maps – the border aspects he likes, the bits he doesn’t like. He references the Crusades 1201 map and games he is in (23 mins 30 secs)
  • Kaner asks whether the Crusades map is historically accurate (25 mins 15 secs)
  • The guys give their thoughts on other possible Crusades variant ideas (27 mins 45 secs)
  • Then Amby discusses the borders in the Edwardian variant and this thoughts (33 mins)
  • Time for a discussion on the guys’ various Divided States, and why his “be nice to people” philosophy just does not work (39 mins 45 secs)
  • Amby discusses very briefly the Known World 901 Tournament (46 mins 45 secs)
  • He then talks about the 1066 Tournament (48 mins)

What the Dr Recommended

  • Then its a quick “What the Dr Recommended” segment, going through the top 50 in the vDip Hall of Fame (49 mins 45 secs)

Kaner v Amby: fight time over scoring

  • Kaner brings up a forum discussion on points and scoring. It doesn’t take long until he and Amby disagree with each other (52 mins 45 secs)
  • Amby asks Kaner about Ghost Ratings (1 hr 4 mins)

Dip World, red boxes and padlocks

  • Kaner discusses the latest Diplomacy World issue 142, upcoming tournaments and an article from Enriador about the variant Florence on vDip (1 hr 7 mins 45 secs)
  • Before wrapping things up they talk quickly about the red warning box and padlock changes that have occured on vDip and to some extent webDip (1 hr 11 mins)
  • They then wrap up the episode (1 hr 14 mins)

Podcast bonus!

But wait, there’s more! The guys add an encore jokes segment (1 hr 15 mins)


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