Diplomacy Games podcast: Episode 129 – Interview with Davide Cleopadre about WDC Milan

Venue: Skype because Ken has buggered up his hand, Brisbane

Drinks of choice:

Ken: XXXX Bitter from Brisbane

Gavin: De Bortelli Sacred Hill Shiraz, “Wine of Australia”

The guys interview Davide Cleopadre, the tournament organiser of the 2024 World Diplomacy Championship in Milan, Italy.


  • The guys open the show being recorded on Skype and introduce their drinks with a couple of stories along the way (0 mins 10 secs)

Interview with Davide Cleopadre, TD for the 2024 WDC in Milan

  • They start introducing the interview with Davide Cleopadre, the tournament organiser (11 mins 50 secs)
  • The interview begins and Gavin asks Davide why he nominated Milan as the host for the 2024 WDC (14 mins)
  • Gavin talks about the culture in Italy and Australia and how they’ve very similar (16 mins 15 secs)
  • Davide talks a little around the venue and eating too much (19 mins)
  • Gavin asks what will people walk away remembering about this particular WDC. Ken bowls a curve ball  (21 mins 20 secs)
  • He goes onto ask about the structure of the tournament… with a little lasagne and gnocci talk… and not to put any sauce on anything in Australia (24 mins 15 secs)
  • They talk about the rounds in the tournament, the scoring system and gameplay (29 mins)
  • Davide goes into how the top board is determined and Gavin asks about the Lingua Franca in the tournament (41 mins 40 secs)
  • Ken asks about using new technologies to improve communication in other languages in tournaments (45 mins 10 secs)
  • Gavin draws on his previous visit to Milan many years ago and asks about Davide’s expeditations on travelling before or after the tournament (49 mins)
  • They talk about the WhatsApp group for the tournament (50 mins 50 secs)
  • Davide talks about the idea of betting and bottles of wine before a brief discussion on Spaghetti Bolognese (55 mins 30 secs)
  • The guys discuss the interview (59 mins 30 secs)
  • Gavin mentions the Team game concept being considered for WDC Milan (1 hr 6 mins)

Diplomacy chat

  • Ken asks what Gavin’s doing with his online games while he’s away (1 hr 11 mins)
  • They discuss some of Gavin’s vDip games (1 hr 15 mins)
  • Ken asks about buying into games (1 hr 20 mins)
  • The guys wrap up the show (1 hr 28 mins)

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Thanks as always to Dr Dan aka “The General” for his rockin’ intro tune.

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